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  Registration  No. 2033 

COSI is run by Eur.Ing. Graham Thornhill C.Eng. and is a member of 'The National Association of Chimney Engineers

METHODS AND MATERIALS FOR CHIMNEY BUILDING & LINING

Since 1966 all chimneys built had to be lined as they were constructed. There are many different methods and materials and all have their uses, advantages and disadvantages. Chimney lining can be roughly divided into three categories; metallic, ceramic, & refractory concrete.

CERAMIC

This is the commonest method for newly built houses. Terracotta low fired square and round liners with socket ends are used. These should be installed ( as all liners should) with the male downwards, and back filled with an insulating lightweight concrete. The disadvantage of these is that they have a very low insulating value and so tar up easily. A chimney fire can cause them to crack and shatter, the only solution is to remove them and reline, quite a major job and one that COSI is having to do more and more. Top quality ceramic liners are available for the relining market that can withstand thermal shock and high temperatures but, of course, these cost considerably more. In short the terracotta lining is the bargain basement of the chimney linings and is only suitable for low cost new build.

REFRACTORY CONCRETE.

This can be divided into three sections;-

The cast-in-situ method is a method of relining or lining an unlined chimney. It gives a high insulation value helping to reduce tar and condensation formation and can withstand some thermal shock of a chimney fire should the worse happen. With this system the chimney is cleaned and opened up every 6 feet and at all bends if the operator is following the Nation Association of Chimney Engineers code of practice. A pneumatic former (giant sausage) is lowered down the chimney and inflated. Spacers of pre-cast material are used to hold the former in the centre of the chimney. A very fluid refractory concrete is then pumped around the former, & the holes sealed and plaster made good. 12hours later the former can be removed. The problem with this system is that some companies don't cut enough or intact any holes. One national company has even been heard saying that tube floats to the middle of the mix!.

Main advantages;- Refractory concrete is a material that should withstand minor chimney fires, high insulation factor should help reduce tar build up. ‘Soft’ mix should help reduce noise. 

Disadvantages;- Can considerably reduce the cross sectional area of the chimney. Especially with a 225mm X 335mm (9" X 14") chimney which can only end up with a 7.25" diameter flue to small for most open fires. Can only be used (without extensive opening of the chimney breast) if the mid-feathers brick are in ‘reasonable’ condition. (the mixture is very wet, it has to be to pump, and to flow 30feet down the side of the former without sticking and forming voids) Approximately 35 litres of water to every 75litrs of mix., in other words about 125 gallons or 1/2 ton per chimney. The hydrostatic pressure at the bottom of the chimney can blow the wall out on a very large opening (yes some people in the past have tried to fill up inglenooks) and mid-feather brick can catastrophically fail just as you pump the last few litres in. This system is very operator dependant and is a bit like the ‘little girl with the curl in the middle of her forehead…….’

For the above reasons COSI have made it a policy to only cast 150mm (6") liners for wood stoves & solid fuel room heaters. Where a solid fuel room heater is installed in a standard chimney (9" X 9") chimney this method would probably give the longest life if done properly compared to 904 grade stainless flex liners. It is essential that the company is NACE registered for this type of lining. Short cuts cannot be taken with this method.

Pre-cast; Lining sections can be purchased for new build that have the same properties and cast-in-situ and form better chimney linings especially for wood burning. They are more expensive and will add about £200.00 to the cost of a chimney in comparison to terracotta. A price well worth paying if it is your own house. These liners are available from COSI, please ask for further details.

Cold Set Ceramic Refactory Resin;-

Some new materials have been developed in Sweden that will form a thin coating over most surfaces. With this system the brick, concrete or cracked clay liners are cleaned with wire brushes. A cavlar cloth backed with shaped foam is placed at the base of the chimney and the premixed resin liquid poured down the chimney. The sponge and cloth are the winched up as more resin is poured on top. This process is the repeated as required. It sound crude and a bit hit miss, but camera surveys always reveal good results.  

Main advantages;- Does not to any intense and purpose alter the cross sectional area of the chimney. It is therefore ideal for open fire especially the larger ones. Does not need 'Building Regs. as it is so thin, but is guaranteed for 10 years.

Main disadvantages;- As with the Cast-in-Situ it requires a fairly sound chimney to start with. We always camera survey first and any holes have to be repaired buy cutting into the chimney first and bricking up. Scaffolding is always required as you have to stand and winch.

METALLIC.

This can be divided into four  sections;-  single skin flexible, twin wall/smooth lined flexible, solid single skin and solid twin wall. 

Single skin flexible.

Used for gas or oil installations. Made of grade 316 stainless steel these have a good life expectancy and are only usually replaced when the appliance is changed. For gas the void round the liner must be sealed top and bottom and a suitable terminal fitted. For oil the void should be filled with a dry insulating material, (vermiculite, pearlite or leca) unless it is to big when insulation (rockwall or fiberglass) can be wrapped round the liner as it is lowered.

Twin wall flexible.

A twin wall smooth bore multi-fuel flexible liner is available for relining and DIY, again available ex-stock at COSI. Care must be taken when sweeping this type of liner and only brushes with a rounded top should be used.  It has a very limited insulation value, and If not back filled with a dry insulation, (vermiculite, pearlite or leca), can tar up reducing its useful life. COSI install many flexible liners each year but we always insist on back filling/insulating to ensure a long life

Main advantages;- Cost, often no holes need to be opened in the chimney breast, manufacturers ten year reducing guarantee. Can sometimes withstand a chimney fire, easily & quickly removed and replaced after a chimney fire. Ideal & most commonly used for wood and multi fuel stoves.

When using with 'room heaters', the higher, more expensive 904 grade stainless should be specified.

Main disadvantages;- Fairly delicate until inside chimney, site care and careful handling is required by installers.. 

Solid single skin.

Flue pipe section in 1mm thick grade 316 stainless steel make and incredibly strong and long lasting liner that can with stand minor chimney fires. More expensive and more difficult to install than the flexible, it is the chose of the person who puts safety and investment in there home first

Main advantages;- Easily available, very strong, should withstand chimney fire, last few section only to replace in the event of a fire. Very smooth so easily cleaned.

Main disadvantages;- Fiddly to fit if a lot of bends, fairly large hole need to be cut in a 9 X 9 chimney to get length down.

Solid twin wall

If you have no chimney a solid insulated twin wall stainless flue can be erected inside or outside your building and can be used for any appliance or fuel. With an inch of mineral insulation, tar will not be a problem if dry wood is burned. This is available ex-stock from COSI, see the end of the page for prices.

In conclusion there is no perfect method, and certainly no one method stands out above the rest. Probably the best is the Solid stainless, the strongest? the most likely to withstand fires? but must like the flexible be put in the right way up. The cast-in-situ refractory concrete method when done well is excellent, far superior to the pre-cast sections, but they are also the two most difficult to replace in the event of a fault, failure or fire. The flexible is the easiest to replace but care has to be taken with it, it is the least disruptive and dry, 95% of all liners done by COSI are flexible grade 316 Stainless steel.

In other words the operator/contractor is more important than the method used, they should be NACE registered as a "competent" installer. All liners and stove installations require building regs. approval. You must inform your Council and register the work yourself (approx. £200.00) or you use a "competent chimney installer" who will register the work for you.

Each chimney should be looked at in its owns right and the method chosen to line should be reasoned out. Reliable contractors must be used who have full knowledge of all systems and not biased towards one method alone.

The architect should apply basic quality control, and the work of new contractors checked carefully to ensure they are competent. NACE membership is vital, with HETAS, OFTEC, or CORGI for m/fuel, oil  & gas respectively.

All chimneys must be thoroughly swept first, power cleaned if tarred up. Pumped liners must be spaced, pre-cast liners jointed properly and cement washed to reduce porosity. Steel and all pre-formed liners must be back filled and put in the right way up. The method of starting and termination must be thought out.

We at COSI mostly fit flexible single wall on oil or gas, flexible twin wall or if the customer requires the best solid stainless on wood stoves, and the Swedish resin system or solid stainless on open fires depending on the condition and size of the existing chimney.

Pricing

Twin Wall Stainless ‘instant’ Chimney.

This Class 1 chimney has twist lock joints, with 316 1mm inner liner and 304 grade stainless steel outer with silica based insulation (25mm). Suitable for solid fuel, gas and oil fired appliances.

 

5" (125mm)

6" (150mm)

7" (175mm)

8" (200mm)

Length 1000mm.

176.00

195.00

220.00

264.00

500mm

92.50

102.00

115.70

127.25

250mm.

77.75

86.30

101.50

117.65

150mm

52.00

58.90

69.60

80.30

Adj. length 300 - 450mm.

120.00

141.00

180.48

197.50

Elbow 15/30/45 deg.

130.00

145.60

156.00

170.00

Equal Tee with plug.

280.90

295.25

348.00

385.00

135 deg. Tee with plug.

294.40

320.00

382.45

425.25

Adaptor single to twin plain

16.00

17.70

19.85

21.35

Wall support bracket

69.50

71.00

81.64

87.10

Wall band (heavy duty, adjustable)

62.50

66.50

71.50

79.60

Pack1, Plant room ceiling support

50.20

52.30

54.70

57.10

Pack 2 intermediate floor

59.10

61.70

64.30

67.00

Pack 3 ceiling top floor (no boxing in)

51.20

53.40

55.40

57.60

Rafter support bracket.

63.20

54.60

60.00

62.90

Locking bands

19.65

20.65

21.65

23.30

Storm collar

15.35

15.60

23.63

24.80

Lead flashing to order. State angle.

82.50

84.50

86.20

88.50

Terminals Top stub

43.63

45.40

47.85

53.70

GC1 gas cowl

44.60

48.30

N/AV

N/AV

Gas, oil storm cowl with bird guard

66.40

68.30

69.90

72.40

Standard rain cowl

42.00

43.90

48.90

58.50

Multi Fuel Flexible 316 Stainless Steel Class1 Flexible Liner. (Inc VAT.)

Diameter

5"(125mm)

6"(150mm)

7"(175mm)

8"9200mm)

10"(250mm)

Cost 9 meter kit grade 316

£ 325.00

£ 350.00

£ 480.00

£ POA

£POA

S/Steel grade 904

£ 450.00

£ 595.00

£ 820.00

£ POA

£POA

Aluminium clamp ring & plate.

£3.00

£3.00

£12.75

£12.75

£12.75

Double top hat adapter to flue pipe

£60.00

£ 65.00

£ 75.00

£ 80.00

£ POA

Back fill in 100 Litre. bags

£ 11.00

       

High quality refractory concrete flue liners to current BSI & Building Regs. using high Alumina Cement (superior to clay or OPC Liners)

Size internal square/round 225mm 225mm 250mm 300mm 350mm
305mm long ( 225 only 225mm long) £ 7.95   £ 17.50 £ 39.20 £47.60
457mm long (225 only 225mm long)     £ 21.30

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135 deg. (45 deg.) bend.   £ 16.25 £ 24.40 £ 77.00 £ 93.00
Gather lintel opening size W, H & D. cm. Assumes 9M high chimney

60 / 65 / 40

£85.00

80 / 70 / 40

£ 90.00

80 / 90 / 50

£ 95.00

100 / 100 /60

£ 115.50

150 / 110 / 60

£ 280.00

Ingle nook stove canopy starter £ 95.00   £ 95.00 £ 115.50 £ 280.00
Flue damper (not for gas fires) £ 140.00 £ 140.00 £ 140.00 £ 140.00 £ 140.00
Pot adapter

N/A

N/A

£ 22.40

£ 31.00

£ 33.60

Refractory mortar. tubes. 10 joints £ 6.75        
Back fill in 100 Ltr bags   £ 11.00      

Stainless Steel Flue Pipe May 07 All prices inc. VAT

Single wall flue pipe, constructed of 1mm grade 316 stainless steel making it suitable for use with oil, gas or solid fuel appliances. Designed for flue gas temperatures up to 540deg.C continuous, 750deg.C intermittent, & will withstand 1100deg.C.

5"(125mm)

6"(150mm)

7"(175mm)

8"(200mm)

Lengths 1000mm. (40")

£ 79.45 £ 82.50 £ 91.20 £ 105.00

Inspection length 1000mm

96.00

101.50

112.00 130.00

500mm. (20")

57.30

58.70

65.00

74.35

Inspection length 500mm

77.00

80.25

89.60

95.65

250mm. (10")

32.00

32.40

37.00

41.25

Telescopic 1 piece Adj. Length 300-500mm

62.00

76.30

77.30

70.25

90 deg. Tee with cap

91.00

92.45

104.50

120.00

45 deg. Tee with cap

93.00

95.45

111.10

123.30

Adj. Bend 0-45 deg

44.25

45.00

51.00

57.55

Adj. Bend. 0-90 deg.

64.00

65.25

73.80

83.00

Increasers

70.15

81.25

90.00

91.75

Locking bands

9.75

19.80

21.20

22.35

Top hat register plate connector

£ 45.00

£ 50.00

£ 55.00

£ 60.00

Top hat register plate con. twin ( for liners)

£ 60.00

£ 65.00

£ 75.00

£ 80.00

Matt black spray paint for above £8.50 per 250ml.can.

Vitreous Enamel Flue Pipe

The flue pipe is coated with a high temperature & acid resistant vitreous enamel. The gloss finish meets the requirements of BS1344 parts 1 & 7 and class SA requirements of BS1344 part 3.stance. Colours available are white black brown in gloss and black is also available in a matt finish. Suitable for oil, gas or solid fuel.

Lengths 900mm. (3ft)

£ 62.50

£ 95.00

£ 79.50

£ 96.25

Length’s with soot door 900mm

£ 80.55

£ 87.40

£ 107.40

£ 115.00

600mm.(2ft)

£ 45.85

£ 52.00

£ 60.45

£ 69.30

Length’s with soot door 600mm

£ 63.90

£ 70.15

£ 78.55

£ 87.35

300mm.(1ft)

£ 36.85

£ 43.60

£ 49.95

£ 58.20

Length’s with soot door 300mm

£ 50.45

£ 57.10

£ 63.50

£ 71.80

Adj. Length 600 – 800 WSD

£ 85.00

£ 95.00

£ 105.00

£ 110.00

90 deg. Tee. with cap

£ 118.70

£ 126.00

£ 133.75

£ 188.20

45 deg. Tee. with cap

£ 127.25

£ 134.50

£ 180.80

£ 203.40

Elbow 15/30/45 deg.

£ 41.50

£ 43.00

£ 69.00

£ 84.50

Elbow with inspection door 15/30/45 deg.

£ 66.50

£ 71.90

£ 82.50

£ 96.00

Elbow with inspection door 90 deg.

£ 79.00

£ 81.75

£ 98.00

£ 105.75

Locking bands.

£ 11.00

£ 11.90

£ 16.35

£ 18.75

Gas/28sec.Oil Single Skin Flexible 316 Stainless Flexible Liner

 

100mm

125mm

150mm

Cost per 9 meter pack.

£ 95.00

£ 120.00

£ 165.00

Gas GC1 terminal (aluminium) & clamp plate.

£ 10.45

£ 10.45

£ 17.65

Oil terminal (cone cap, stainless steel) & clamp plate.

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£ 42.65

£ 46.25

Insulating back fill in 100 Litre. Bags

£ 11.50

   

Chimney Pots, Bird Guards & Cowls.

Roll top / cannon head

450mm £ 65.00

600mm £ 75.00

700mm £ 95.00

Vort-X anti down draft terracotta

24" £ 88.00

40" £ 99.00

48" £ 150.00

Gas open fire chimney pot

600mm £175.00

   

S/Steel Bird guard £ 95.50

Red Bird guard/Rain cap £65.00

Gas term T/Cotta 125mm £ 85.00

150mm £ 125.00

Soot door cast iron £58.50

Flue vent £ 42.50

   

Reg. Plate steel 2 X 1200 X 600mm

£ 22.50

Angle iron 3Mtr. £ 7.50

 

 

 

 

Information Request

We can supply cookers, stoves & chimney products through out the UK & France but often the transport costs are extremely high as they are big, heavy and

vitreous enamel can get chipped. Tiles & house plaque are sent round the world using normal post.

If you want a best price quotation on a cooker for collection by you, it is best to phone us on 01 227 780 830 quoting the best price you have been offered and we will try to beat it for you.

We can offer technical advice over the phone if you purchase from us and we can commission a fair distance away for just £150.00. R

Remember warranties will be invalid if any appliance is not installed correctly and not commissioned properly by a trained technician. 

For further literature you are better off  contacting the manufacturers directly and I have put web links in above to help you.

If you live in the SE and would like a full quotation for supply and installation, please contact us by phone, fill in the form below

or visit the show room where all the above are on display. Remember we offer a full installation service;-Rebuilding or building fireplaces and 

mock inglenooks, chimney building, central heating and full plumbing service. Also minor building works and kitchen design and installation specializing in oak floors and kitchen with  www.artisanoak.co.uk   

When AGA use the term installation they really always mean assembly as they come flat packed, not connecting to oil or gas and no chimney work so try to compare like to like,  

Thank you, I hope you have found my site informative, please email any comments or suggestions.         Eur.Ing. Graham Thornhill B.Sc. (Hons) C.Eng.

cosi@fsbdial.co.uk  or tel. 01 227 780 830 or fax 01 227 787 588